she would move to the next one. once she said, well, she said, you know, you lo, you don't have a followup i stated yes i do have a follow up. look she complained about it being, she did not look the wait was done, and a lot of reporters were rejected and so on. well, you know, maybe so, it was great opportunity for me; however, no question about that. >> what did it do for you? >> well, i got invited to be on the mclaughlin group. that is how you originally asked about this. the next week, canon was on the way. i was on the mclaughlin group. the truth is, i knew contracting very well, bob novak is a good friend of mine. i never watched the show. he have met mclaughlin actually when he tried to city on the jury ford-whit house after nixon resigned, but in any case, there i was on that show. in 1984 and after that, it led to you know being asked to be on television other shows and ultimately becoming a regular in 1988 ob the mclaughlin group.